Love Mail (we can't get enough of it!)Below are a few selections from the flood of positive feedback we've received thus far. Text in blue is my commentary. To quickly get to a specific message, click the jump link!Note: all emails submitted to this site, per the copyright notice, become the property of this site and may be posted. However, I'm a reasonable person, so if you don't want your note posted, or you want your email address deleted, or you want your email anonymized, just say so. Index of Postings
A Typical Savage Fan's View of The Rest Of Us"All those Nation-reading, Seattle-trashing, Nader-voting, Rage-Against-the-Machine-listening, Patchouli-stinking, Michael Moore-watching, Bicycle-riding, Starbucks-boycotting, No Logo-spouting fools who converged in Washington last weekend will all be voting for a Clinton-type in 2008." (PJ O'Rourke)Doesn't work for all those sane Republicans I keep on hearing, though. The Mail"morbid curiousity"
From : Melissa Wrobel
To : info@savagestupidity.com Subject : I totally agree!!! Date : Wed, 12 Jun 2002 15:54:04 -0700 (PDT) I was so relieved to see other people feel the same as I do when it comes to this hate monger (Ha, I almost called him a man!). I live in Indiana, and only recently came across this monstrosity of a radio program driving home from work one night. I tune in now out of basic morbid curiosity of what the idiot will spew out of his mouth next, and to know what the enemy is up to. I wouldn't call myself a liberal, wouldn't align myself with any sort of political position. All I am is a working mom who thinks Disney should be ashamed of themselves for supporting this person, who with every breath makes me wonder if the first amendment is that good of an idea. Again, thanks for showing me that there are lots of people who disagree with what this jerk says. I will spread the word of your site to those like myself. Melissa Wrobel
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"there are good republicans out here"
From : J Noway
To : info@savagestupidity.com Subject : so that you know Date : Wed, 12 Jun 2002 14:53:24 -0700 (PDT) I really like your web site. I live in SF and listen to this jerk from time to time. I am a right winger and I can't even stand him. that's the point I want to make. Please don't associate Right Wing, or Republican with the likes of Savage. There are some good republicans out here I promise Let's get this jerk off the air. What ever happened to his "wear your Savage hat to work day"? He made a big deal about it, and of course backed away because it was a flop. keep up the great work. -Chris
Chris,
Thanks for the compliment. Savage does get on your nerves, doesn't he? I'm sure there are good Republicans out there... I've got a few in my family, I grew up knowing a few of them. Unfortunately, your party seems to have been captured by a group of social conservatives intent on having the government involve itself in people's personal affairs and impairing their civil liberties, and totally unconscious of the Republican party's roots in reform and the progressive movement of the early 20th century.
Regards,
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"keeping track of that idiot"
From : "John Minck"
Reply-To : "John Minck" To : Subject : Kudos Date : Tue, 18 Jun 2002 10:24:47 -0700 I happened to link over to your website from michaelsavagesucks.com site, and wanted to thank you for keeping track of that idiot. I have taken to writing to the CEOs of companies which advertise on his show in San Francisco, and so far have gotten two of them to write to me and tell me they were pulling their ads from his show. I recount his treatment of Herb Caen, in a program I heard myself, when he ran sound effects of trickling water, and verbalized that he was urinating on Caen's grave. I also mention his degradation of Senator John McCain, on June 12, for McCain voting against eliminating the estate tax. Savage said McCain should be sent back to the Hanoi Hilton in Vietnam. THAT IS AN OUTRAGE, way over the line, for one of our country's most prominent military heros. In my letters to CEOs I point out that Savage's listeners are not quite the kind of people most would want for customers. They certainly are not the kind of people I would invite to dinner, and I point out that most CEOs would never invite them either. Your verbatim lists of hate email to you just make my point. Savage is a racist, bigot, homophobe, xenophobe, among other less complimentary names. But, Hate Radio, which he espouses, is also the American Way. I love it.
Keep up the good work, and
John,
Thanks. And thank you for taking the time to act - you've shown that a single person can make a difference.
Regards,
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"sick and tired of this raving maniac"
From : "Arobind Velagapudi"
To : info@savagestupidity.com Subject : Savage sucks!!! Date : Wed, 19 Jun 2002 15:37:44 -0700
Hi, Once on his show, he got so carried away with his lies that he claimed to have recieved an "award for creative thinking" from the Japanese government. I almost drove off the road laughing. I then contacted the Japanese Embassy (God bless them, they were really helpful) to see if he was telling the truth. Guess what, there never was any such award. Though I find it offensive that so much importance is being given to this mean old hate monger, I think you are doing the right thing. Good luck guys. -A
Arobind,
Thanks, I find it encouraging to hear that such a broad assortment of folk are sick and tired of Savage's hatemongering... the most fundamental principle required to maintain a democratic society is the ability for those of differing opinions to have a reasoned dialogue and be able to disagree in a civil manner.
Regards,
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"Puhleeze!"
From : Angel Rodriguez
To : info@savagestupidity.com Subject : Interesting site Date : Thu, 20 Jun 2002 17:03:54 -0700 (PDT) I live in the San Diego area, and came upon the Savage Nation program by accident one afternoon while stuck in traffic. I couldn't believe my ears; the hatred spewing out of the radio was almost palpable. Even worse were the majority of the callers expounding their own hate-filled views, all the praising his "intillegence and insight". Puhleeze! While I have to concede that maybe 5% of what Michael Savage says has a ring of truth to it, the rest just sounds like the mad rantings of a bitter man, the kind you would hate to have as a next-door neighbor. He gives radio a bad name, just another shock jock looking for (and unfortunately finding) an audience. I hope the interest in your website continues to grow and sperad the word, hand in hand with www.michaelsavagesucks.com. Keep up the good work. From the desk of Angel Rodriguez
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"shrill, annoying Woody Allen-on-PCP delivery"
From : "paul nemeth"
To : info@savagestupidity.com Subject : weiner's academic achievements Date : Mon, 24 Jun 2002 10:35:55 -0700 I will admit to over the last couple of years being a casual listener of The Savage Nation. Hearing Dr. Weiner rant at first was a great deal more interesting than the crappy music that most radio stations provide these days. However, hearing that of his got old after awhile. I'm trying to be a much better student of domestic and world news and politics than I was in the past, so I don't feel qualified yet to challenge Weiner on his worldview but I do have one question/observation: Apparently, Weiner is (or was) in the process of suing the UC-Berkeley Board of Regents because, in spite of what he considers extensive qualifications, he was turned down for a job as the dean of their Journalism Department. I've done some research on him (both pro and anti sources) and indeed the man has impressive credentials...IN NUTRITION AND ETHNOBOTANISM. HIS ACADEMIC BACKGROUND, WHILE IMPRESSIVE, IS NOT IN JOURNALISM. I have a music degree from a prestigious private university, and for the last ten years have made most of my living as a professional musician. Part of being a musician is being a businessman. But if I had a Ph.D in music, should I be offended if business schools don't offer me teaching positions? Folks, these people are ENTERTAINERS. Michael Weiner (Savage) is no more qualified to be the Dean of Journalism than Dr. Laura would be qualified to be the Dean of Psychology (we all know her degree is in physiology). The danger is not that these people EXIST, but that PEOPLE TAKE THEM SERIOUSLY, and think that an academic credential in a non-related field somehow gives them credibility. Paul Nemeth
Paul,
I know exactly how you feel... this is why I started listening to Savage in the first place, the vast barren wasteland of corporate controlled, format driven, sterilized and repetitive radio is enough to drive any of us stuck in traffic for extended periods out of our minds. If you look on the "Links" page, you'll see that I've documented his lawsuit - which clearly went no where, in extensive detail.
Regards,
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"right-wingnuts"
From : velasca1963@netscape.net
To : info@savagestupidity.com Subject : Excellent website! Date : Mon, 24 Jun 2002 12:01:35 -0400 Thank you for your website. Reading your mail from both sides, I have to share that I had a better laugh at the hatemail. Those poor Savage Nation fans. I do love free speech, and from what I read, those who oppose progressive thought and action want us dead or in prison but those who spew hatred feel that is just okie dokie! It was nice to read from true Republicans, also. I am aware that these right-wingnuts zealots who profess to be Savage fans are not the true case, but sadly, the GOP has indeed been bamboozled and is now lead by men of weak morals who worship the only God they know, Money. Loyal opposition is the American way. I must admit that from time to time I have tuned into Savage for entertainment value. After 9-11 he and some of his dimwit callers had quite a hey day professing that racial hatred is the norm in the Land of the Free and how every brown skinned person is probably a threat. I heard the terms "those people" and "you people" so many times ...and don't forget Michael's Red Diaper Doper Babies! Savage claims to have a college degree and claims to be the only true American on the planet..I ask as another poster has..then why didn't Michael serve his country when he had his chance? Now that he is an impotent old fart he has found his audience..but..we have a right to ask the sponsors why they support such hatred without even giving the loyal opposition a chance for rebuttal. His hateful spew post 9-11 was as disgusting as his spew during the election theft in Florida. But, he is making money. He'll switch sides again someday. Just follow the money. I am sure he is ranting to his "listeners" every night now about this "commie pinko red diaper website" and telling them what do do, say, think, as usual. It wasn't long ago he was calling for McCarthy hearings again. That says a lot about this man's mental fitness level. Poor thing. Keep up the loyal opposition! Velasca
Velasca, Thanks for the support... I don't know if Savage knows I exist yet, he's been on vacation for a while, but I look forward to hearing his reaction, I'm sure it will be as entertainingly insane as his usual rants.
Regards,
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"cheap, shrill imitation of Rush Limbaugh"
From : MELEK1962@aol.com
To : info@savagestupidity.com Subject : Less Anger Date : Mon, 24 Jun 2002 11:23:32 EDT Add me to the list of conservative republicans that are outraged this venom-tongued snake dares call himself one of us! Weiner thrives on hate and discord between different groups of people. What is so pathtetic is he's not even an original, he is a cheap, shrill imitation of Rush Limbaugh, and to beat Rush in shrillness is not easy. One thing he's accomplished though is he made me rethink my position on certain social issues. Whereas I used to be an 'angry' republican, though not heartless, I'm now even more considerate, give more thought to certain problems facing less fortunate Americans, simply because I don't want to be like that hate-spewing snake. I doubt I'll become a democrat, but I will be an even more understanding, less angry conservative from now on. :-) Melek
Melek,
Thanks for your wonderful letter. I think you would probably qualify as one of the true "compassionate conservatives" that Savage claims to have coined the term for. If there were more Republicans like you who stood up to these bastards, we'd all be better off!
Regards,
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"audience of fools"
From : "kenneth k hodges"
To : info@savagestupidity.com Subject : Savage audience of fools Date : Tue, 25 Jun 2002 04:45:43 +0000
I think you have a great idea.
Ken,
Thanks!
Regards,
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Our most entertaining lovemail to date...
From :
"f. w. weber" <fwtwo@msn.com>
To : <info@savagestupidity.com> Subject : The Petition to STOP Michael Savage'S REactionIST-relioSE bigotED savageD world Date : Mon, 24 Jun 2002 20:15:28 -0700
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... no comment needed.
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From : "Judi Willis"
To : Subject : savagestupidity Date : Tue, 30 Jul 2002 23:35:56 -0500 After listening to Savage a few times, I finally realized that he is a raving liberal lampooning conservatives. No true conservative could possibly be that damn ignorant!
Kenneth R Blan
Hmm... I guess that makes the flood of illiterate Savage Nation supporters flooding my inbox a bunch of closet liberals. Won't they be surprised. :)
Regards,
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"... I needed a laugh."
From : "John Minck"
To : "TLeavitt" Subject : Kudos Date : Thu, 1 Aug 2002 14:35:47 -0700 Hi Thomas, Those latest emails from Savage supporters are just hilarious. One knows there are people out there who can't spell or string a few words together to make a decent sentence or thought. But you never expect to meet them. But there they are, listening to Michael Savage, and defending him. There is no better argument that Savage's philosophies are bankrupt. And funny. Because his supporters are hilarious, and pathetic. And they are definitely not the kind of people you or I (or Savage) would invite home for dinner with the family.
Cheers, Tnx for posting them, I needed a laugh.
Savage's fans are good at providing that, aren't they?
Regards,
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Savage Is Like a Stopped Clock
From : RamonDelToro@aol.com
To : info@savagestupidity.com CC : LeGs25@aol.com Subject : Talk Show Savage Date : Sun, 28 Jul 2002 10:52:13 EDT While I agree that Savage has a rude disposition, I somewhat agree with his views about the Government Media complex. I think he has some valid points about too much Government control. We Americans really have no where or no one to turn too when we have a legitimate complaint against big Government or large companies. We can write to the editor of a paper and they ultimately decide what to publish. If you write to Government Representative they send your complaint to the perpetrator and the official writes back on fancy stationary with fancy letter heads, the letter is answered by the same idiots who caused the problem. The Government officials then pats themselves on the back and thank you for asking for their help. Their replys are filled with jargon and nothing is resolved. Basically you have wasted your time. Then when the agency finds out you wrote and caused waves, your goos! e is cooked. The fact is that we have an Aristrocractic government. Even the courts are rigged, the lawyers on both sides and the judges are like a big fraternity, they win all the way around. The system will then force you into believing that you are the culprit. They will destroy our live's, I know I live it, and see it everyday. They fire people at will and terrorize their lives with no accountability and no fear of their lawllessness. They are not held accountable. they operate like thugs. We working people have no recourse when it comes to addressing or correcting evil and harm done by government officials and CEO's. The fact is that they are in bed together, I suspect that not much will be done about the corrupt business activities, because the fact is that they the CEOs are in bed with big Government. We the American people do need active voices that will keep us informed of what is really going on with our nation, but sometimes savage gets carried away, he makes to many statements that are inciteful, perhaps he is a puppet of the media himself and does not know it. Maybe they let him run to have a method of tracking those who are not content with the current Government activities. This is a possibility, the Government can track the citizens right through this medium. The problem I have with savage is that he talks big and takes no action to back his mouth. I enjoy listening to his audience and their comments. Savage is rude to anyone who does not agree with him, he is arrogant and condescending, I do not like that. He is very witty and crafty. It is hard to tell whether he is authentic in his rhetoric, an actor perhaps? The bigger question is who and how will the American people defend themselves against corporate and Government Corruption????? Before we start getting people thrown off the air and our voices silenced, what are the alternatives and who will decide? R
R.,
Savage is like a stopped clock. He's right twice a day, and wrong the rest of the time... you're right that the powers that be in this country, "liberal" and "conservative" alike, share a common ideology - that they are better than the rest of us, and deserve to run things. The answer to how the American people will defend themselves is simple: take back control of their government. Organize. Become involved. Run for office. Work on a campaign. Serve on a committee. Speak at a City Council meeting. Grassroots democracy is one of the ten key values of the Green Party, and that commitment to an active civic life (as Ralph Nader said, "Growing up Civic, not Corporate.") is one of the main reasons why I am a member of that party. If you don't participate, complaining is just talk.
Regards,
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Baseball Should Trump Savage
From : "Ted Cobb"
To : Subject : Great Site Date : Fri, 02 Aug 2002 10:47:58 -0700 Thomas, Keep up the fine work. The local radio station in Sacramento that broadcasts our Triple A baseball games refuses to cut into the Savage hour. Thus, when our Rivercats play in Utah or Colorado, the games are tape-delayed until after Mr. Savage finishes his rant. Can you believe that? I mean, talk about un-American!! My fondest dream is that some city council somewhere denies Savage the use of a municipal auditorium for a speech and that the ACLU goes to court to guarantee him access. A.L. Wirin did that for George Lincoln Rockwell and the American Nazi Party. I'm sure they would do it for Mr. Savage. Anyway, I enjoyed looking at your website. Best of luck.
Ted Cobb
Ted,
Thanks! I'm a baseball fan too (listen to the Giants on KNBR in the SF Bay Area all the time), and that sure would steam me! The ACLU is on the side of the angels, as far as I'm concerned, and if Savage is entitled to access, he's entitled... although I'd be outside the door picketing loudly as hell, and I'd support the right of any municipal employee to refuse to work that night.
Regards,
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"phony conservatives"
[Note: someone else wrote in, claiming to be this guy, and that this is a fake. Who knows? Sounds probable enough. Ah, well. -Editor]
From: Stewart Antony Howdy: How does we prevail against 'em all, besides Wiener-whiner? Sean Hannity, Dr. Laura-Bora, Art Bell, the phoney "Rabbi" Lapin, the "Irreverend" Billy Graham (who prefers to preach to white people!), G. Gordon Liddy, sell-out Tommin' Ken Hamblin, bastard step-son of number one asshole Ronnie Reagan--Michael Reagan, baby-killer Geoff Metcalf (He brags about his VietNam atrocities!!), Upchuck Heston, Matt Drudge, ethnic traitor Joe Farah, Michael Siegel, William "Fuck-up" Buckley, the slut Annie Coulter, Wally George, ex-FBI Gunderson, another baby-killer--Dave Hackworth, ex-FBI cry-baby Gary Aldrich, Roy Masters, Peter Weissbach, Marc Klaas (who bopped and killed his own daughter, then framed R.A. Davis!!), Spenser Hughes, Dennis Prager, and that most hideous monstrosity of all, Rush Limbaugh!! At least James Carville read his wife the riot act, about sharing her poison in public!! Ya know, since these phoney conservatives bankrupted the poor Russian people about 12-13 years ago, forcing them into poverty, they've found a new "enemy" to pick on. It's the poor people of the Middle-East and Central Asia, who don't have the military assets, including nuclear weapons with good delivery systems, to make for a fair and square level playing field against America. All these racist psychopaths, who worship in dead and dangerous religions (Christianity and Judaism) are about, anyhow, is stealing the Arab's rightfully owned oil. I shall never forgive Ronnie for the atrocities he committed and the genocide he attempted against Central America. He thought he made the Soviets blink, when he decimated their rightfully selected system of government. Soon, it's time to make America blink, 'cause Nine-Eleven ain't nuthin'! I may not be a Muslim, but they do know about real Law and Order!! Are you going to pop the bubbly, when Ronnie's gone? I am!!
Stickin' up for The Third World's Rights!!,
How do we combat 'em all? By getting the Fairness Doctrine put back in place, demanding equal time, and then supporting the people we agree with when they get on the air.
I think most Americans have a hard time acknowledging the vast scale of the crimes committed in their name by America's Presidents - the concept is so at odds with our mental self image of our cells. Ronnie really is the moral equivalent of Pinochet - honestly, even worse. I'm not comfortable celebrating the death of any human, but certainly I won't be sobbing in my cups when he passes.
Regards,
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From : "Ayaz Yusuf"
To : Subject : That disgusting piece of rat dung on the radio. Date : Tue, 6 Aug 2002 12:54:22 -0700 PRAISE GOD!!! HALLELUHIA!!!!! FREE AT LAST, FREE AT LAST, THANK GOD ALMIGHTY WE ARE FREE AT LAST!!! Michael Savage Sucks.com is cool but SavageStupidity.com is KILLER! I’ve been waiting for months for someone to finally come out with a source of valuable, timely, and effective counter-attacks against that foaming-at-the-mouth, rabid, sleazy, stinking, rotting, oats-for-brains, little turd Mikey “Wiener” Savage. I’ve been trying now for weeks to get through to that asshole’s show to ask him why he changed his name. Is he somehow ashamed of his heritage? Does he think advertisers will stop funding his reactionary diatribes if they find out his true last name? I can never get through however. The phone is always busy. Got any ideas? I would like to join any and all groups who are in the process of destroying the credibility of that pathetic, filthy mound of rotting horse crap. I live in Orange, south of LA, and would love to volunteer at your organization. Please, please don’t stop what you’re doing, the word needs to spread. You have a fantastic website! Keep up the fight!!! Kurt Yusuf Orange, CA P.S. How in Hades did that pile of fish vomit Weiner ever get on air in the wonderful, diverse, cosmopolitan, worldly city of San Francisco? That city stands for everything opposite of what that idiot gasses out on the airwaves. I just can’t figure out why on earth the good citizens of SF haven’t had regular marches at that asshole’s radio station to get him off the air and to kick his dripping little ass right out of town!
Kurt,
Wow... getting a letter like that is even better than knowing I've managed to induce some crazed Savage follower to foam at the mouth. What can you do? A lot. More later.
Regards,
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From : Carlos A Leiva <cal1@cec.wustl.edu>
To : <info@savagestupidity.com> Subject : Great site, dude!!! Date : Mon, 26 Aug 2002 15:47:31 -0500 (CDT) Hi Chris!!! Gotta tell ya: YOUR SITE KICKS ASS!!! I am a centrist Latino living in big ol' Missouri (St. Louis). I've gotta confess: I'm addicted to Michael Savage, there's no day in which I don't hear to his extreme right wing bullshit. Also, he's an all-time egomaniac, considering himself "the savior of America" (how pathetic!!!). Could you imagine this guy running the nation??? Send me back to my country of birth should this happen. Keep up the good job!!! Carlos A. Leiva
Carlos,
Awesome letter, dude. Thanks!
Regards,
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"OUT DAMNED SPOT "
From : Warpwes@wmconnect.com
To : info@savagestupidity.com Subject : OUT DAMNED SPOT Date : Thu, 12 Sep 2002 01:08:29 EDT
I really enjoyed the photo of the drunken (Oh! I see-I mistook a blush from the bombastic praise heaped upon the broad shoulders of the drag queen of beastmeisters. Mea culpa!) testicle crusher making love to a booze bottle!Right on Bubba or Left on Bubba-You really got yer self an attack dog there to chew on the " Savage One's" leg-I got tons of confidence that this She-male will be the one to run this hatemeister clear back to his California time share in Big Sur where he will spend the rest of his life cowering in fear eveytime someone turns on a radio!
I honestly can't tell if this is Lovemail... it kind of sounds like it, but this just proves that inability to communicate clearly isn't confined to the Savagely Stupid of the world (maybe).
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"nothing more than an Adolf Hitler wannabe"
From : "William Kelly" <wildbillkelly@hotmail.com>
To : info@savagestupidity.com
Subject : Michael Savage is starting to show his true color of Nazism.
Date : Sat, 28 Sep 2002 18:41:26 -0500
After listening to "The Savage Nation" for the past five years, I have come to the conclusion that Michael Weiner, or Michael Savage, is nothing more than an Adolf Hitler wannabe. I'm a devote Libertarian, and believe me, Savage makes some conservatives look upon his show with disgrace and embarrassment. What amazes me is that Savage manipulates his audience into thinking that he is for democracy, but his underlying message is very contradictory to the fact. First of all, the man preaches the desire for an Aryan race of humans. Savage's philosophy promotes the supremacy of the "better and stronger" and the surrender of the "inferior and weaker" - very similar to Nazism. Adolf Hitler, as we all know, destroyed the lives of the Jews, elderly, disabled, and so forth. Similarly, Savage abolishes these same types of persons week after week on his show. All in all, this is all just a minor sample of his hypocracy. If you support Savage, your supporting the very foundation of Nazism in general. Bill Kelly
Bill,
These are excellent points. Savage's ideology of exceptionalism (with regards to Arabs and Muslims, among others) is a threat to basic constitutional principles of equal treatment under the law. Savage is dangerous not so much for himself, but for the points of view (use of nuclear weapons, for example) that he validates, even if indirectly. Check out the comments I excerpted from a posting elsewhere on the net by one of his listeners (they're on the Paul Revere Society Sitewatch page): "Porch-apes" and "burr-heads" were among the milder terminology used.
Regards,
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"Never, have I heard such crap!"
From : Rick Carter <rickcarterus@yahoo.com>
To : info@savagestupidity.com
Subject : Thank You God!
Date : Thu, 26 Sep 2002 19:31:29 -0700 (PDT)
I was recently driving through St. Louis and heard Savage radio for the first time. Never, have I heard such crap! I came home to find his web site so I could tell him what a piece of crap he is and found your site. I was soooo relieved to learn I'm not alone in my feelings. Thanks for being here! Rick
Rick,
Good to hear from you. You're very welcome! We love getting positive fan mail once in a while.
Regards,
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"constructively-criticising-debatable-points-mail"
From : anonymous by request
To : info@savagestupidity.com Subject : agree/disagree Date : Sun, 29 Sep 2002 02:14:50 -0700 Chalk this, I suppose, up to constructively-criticising-debatable-points-mail. While I certainly agree with your position in regards to savage and his absolute assholery, I don't entirely agree with all you have to say. It's currently 4 in the morning, and I don't really have the time or energy to write a long letter about all of my points, so I'll contain it to the one in which I feel you are being harmful to your own cause (I wanna say hypocritical, but it's too strong, and it's been ruined by the people who use it every other sentence without thinking). A lot of people spew the old "If you come to our country, you'd better learn english! I don't wanna hear your broken english! Uneducated and lazy!" Racist, non? Yeah, it's fucked, nearsighted, badly thought out, and historically laughable, and you rightfully denounce it. Here, though, is my problem: you repeatedly mock and deride people for their broken/ungrammatical english. ? . Perhaps there is some innate difference between people who disagree-and-have-bad-grammar and people-who-agree-and-have-bad-grammar. But I doubt it. You and I have the priviledge of, I assume, english as a mother tongue, and an education. Not so of everyone. Right-wing, liberal, lefty, anarchist, libertarian, all have people with much to say and not the means to say it. This doesn't make their point less valid. As an qualifier, I realize that someone saying "FUCK YOU NAZI COMIE PINKO ANRACHIST FEMININAZI FAG JERK!!! I WILL KIL YUO FAGG! YOU CAN;T EVEN SEE YRO COCK!" is mundane, pointless, and worthy of derision, but I think that "imigrant taked all my freinds jobs, so we shoulf just kick them al out! There the reson i hav to lock my car, cuz there al criminils!" is just as valid as "Realistically speaking, it's well known that immigrants are more likely to cause crime, especially of the property variety. I, myself, and sick and tired of being forced to take extra precautions with my car. Additionally, my car is hardly worth stealing because I can't afford much since immigrants have begun saturating the job market, limiting my options and paycheques. My friends can hardly hand in a resume to someone without handing it to a non-white with an accent! I say just halt all immigration, and if necessary, forcibly eject others!" I hope that fairly clearly sums up what I mean. Sleepiness overcomes me. Hope to hear back, sissy PS: If you choose to post any or all of this anywhere, which is fine, please do me the courtesy of not including my email address. *** If the whiskey don' kill me, the government will ***
Dear Reader,
Thank you for the constructive criticism. This is a reasonable point. My real criticism isn't so much that they can't spell, but that they probably can, but are too intellectually lazy to take the time to effective communicate their message. I've added a note to this effect: If someone can't even be bothered to glance at what they've written me, and correct glaringly obvious typos and misspellings, they deserve any ridicule I direct their way. I was taught, as a student in the public schools (which Savage and his supporters seem to think are so terrible), that effective communication requires a professional presentation, one that demonstrates that you care about how your communication is perceived by the person reading it. Therefore, you take the time to proofread your work, and check the spelling, before delivering the message. The "Red China" email posted on the "Latest HateMail" page is a perfect demonstration of what not to do. Of course, it also displays the typical Savage's fan's complete and utter inability to actually engage in coherent thought... something which is vastly more deserving of ridicule than mere misspellings (although the two seem to be strongly corelated).
Regards,
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"what is [Savage's] service record?"
From : zetster <zetster@zianet.com>
To : info@savagestupidity.com Subject : About Michael Savage Date : Thu, 26 Sep 2002 22:44:15 -0600 It would be effective to tell us more about Michael Savage (or Weiner). Since he's gung-ho to go to Iraq, what is his service record?
Good question. No one knows. I think I have an email buried somewhere indicating that someone was looking into it, but I certainly can't find anything. I somehow doubt that, in the process of getting a Ph.D. in whatever, he managed to spend a significant time in the military. But who knows?
Regards,
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"How does he stand walking outside his door[?]"
From : Jeanna <maricopaangel@yahoo.com>
To : thomas@savagestupidity.com Subject : Michael Savage Date : Wed, 2 Oct 2002 08:42:27 -0700 (PDT) Thomas, Loved your site! Nice to read that others are as turned off by this idiot as I am. I live in Phoenix and one of our local am stations has picked up M.S.'s show (lucky us), and I've been listening for a while now - like how you can't turn away from a car wreck. I'm one of those "evil, liberal Democrats", although more in the moderate zone. I enjoy and learn from other opinions, thoughts and ideas all along the politcal spectrum, as long as they are rationally thought out and presented. <sarcasm> But how nice it is to learn (at least in his opinion) that anyone who's not a white, Christian, straight, flag-waving conservative republican is responsible for all the evils and problems of America </sarcasm> - [gag] This guy will blame anything he can on liberals and the ACLU and the so-called liberal bias media! Even that incident of the bank robbery and murders in Nebraska and the tragedy of the officer who committed suicide in his guilt. What in the world does the ACLU's "handcuffing the police from doing their job because of racial profiling" have to do with an unfortunate human error on the police officer's part in transposing two of the serial numbers when he did a gun registration check? It amazes me that Savage lives in San Francisco of all places! How does he stand walking outside his door and going about his daily business one of the most politically, socially, culturally divserse cities in the world! It makes me wonder why he just doesn't move into some little whitebread-Leave It To Beaver town where he'll never have to deal with or interact with anyone who's different from him. But I guess he wouldn't have anything to bitch about then. He strikes me as someone who didn't get something that he felt he was entitled to and instead of trying to make something positive out of it, has turned into a bitter, dried-up old man with a stick up his ass (pardon the expression) <g> Anyway, take care and good luck. -Jeanna
Jeanna,
Glad to hear from you. The ocassional love mail is a welcome change from the usual psychotic rants. I totally get the "car wreck" analogy... what caught my attention in the first place... yeah, the Bay Area is a wonderfully diverse place, but you've got to wonder what the hell is going on when Savage is the leading radio talk show host in this area... are there a lot of people harboring unvoiced resentments? Scary.
Regards,
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"Savage is an act"
From : Dantana1776@aol.com
To : info@savagestupidity.com Subject : Savage is an act Date : Sun, 22 Sep 2002 15:09:55 EDT I have been listening to Savage on and off for about 2 years now and it is clearly appearant that everything about him is an act. Remember Andrew Dice Clay and the controversy he caused. Savage is just an act and I bet if you were to met the real Michael Weiner you would find out that he's probably a completely different person laughing all the way to the bank by fanning the flames of all the narrow minded idiots in this country. I'm find myself politically slanted to the left but if you were going to pay me a bunch of money to come up with anti left rhetoric on a daily basis I would do it. I bet you he has a lot of fun coming with his material. Again, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to see the Savage is an act and this guy is laughing all the way to the bank. Rich Costello
Rich,
Thanks for the email. That's fine in theory, but the practical reality is that Savage's listeners take him quite seriously. When he suggests that we drop nuclear bombs on every Middle Eastern capital as a preventative measure, people nod their heads and say, "Why didn't I think of that? That'll learn them damn ragheads." When he rants about the "feminization" and "homosexualization" of American men, he's directly threatening the security and well being of the average gay and lesbian person, etc. I think that if you look at his record, you'll find that he is damn serious about building a radical lunatic right wing conservative majority. If this is a pose, he's not giving any part of it away.
Regards,
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"Praise" (from a guest columnist)
From : ScreamoEatsEmo@aol.com
To : info@savagestupidity.com Subject : Praise of SavageStupidity.com Date : Sun, 22 Sep 2002 00:04:10 EDT Hello, I'd like to say that I am a fan of the site and in agreement about the stupidity of one Michael Wiener. I'm glad that someone has the good sense to not only realize the idiocy of such a man, but also to realize the lucrative potential in anti-savage humor. I believe that by opposing Savage Nation, you are actually raising awareness of it, however, where in most cases that is a bad thing, I believe in this case it merely is a "barometer of stupidity" so to speak. Those in agreement with a man like Michael Wiener are no longer quietly lurking around in society so easily when they become outspoken supporters of the Savage Nation. My humor aside, I have a proposition. I often write political articles on an amateur level merely to satisfy my own need for expression rather than to proselytize the world with my views, in doing so I've stumbled upon to some worthwhile observations here and there regarding conservative politics. Recently I have written an essay which I think is humorous, insightful, and completely at the expense of Michael Wiener and I would like for you to publish it on your website. I understand if you do not wish to take on such a submission, but if you would at least like to read the essay please reply this letter and I will send it.
Good tidings,
We published Ryan's essay. Check the Features section for the "Savage Sexist" Guest Column.
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"hate monger wackos"
From : "Richard" <rich@barbug.com>
To : info@savagestupidity.com Subject : Like it!! Date : Tue, 3 Sep 2002 07:11:44 -0700 I accidentally stumbled onto your site - love it... I used to live in So Cal and would tune into "Rust Limpbrain" very rarely due to the difficult time listening to his "hate speak" - I shudder to think how many actually believe that way. I no longer listen to any of them - I find watching the chipmunks collect their winter stash much more enlightening. I just love how these hate monger wackos are the ones spewing religion (fiction in my book) as their mantra. Scary! I was a "catholic" once and saw lots of strange stuff in the church - then I studied REAL history and the lights came on! I now live in So Lake Tahoe and in the local paper today was an ad in the classified regarding [deleted] with an address: [deleted] - that's how I started and found savagestupidity.com. I'm not sure if "moo" had/has anything to do with this site ([deleted] ) but it seems totally useless. All the other sites listed on that page do absolutely nothing - just bank pages... ??? Just a friendly critique from another human who just wants to live in peace (yeah I was a total rebel in the 60's - still am) Rich
Rich,
Thanks for the email. [delete explanation of his question regarding the "useless" site] I guess you're the type, more power to you, who doesn't rubberneck as you drive by an accident... Savage is horrifying, but fascinating in a sick and twisted way that can keep your attention (in small doses, at least).
Regards,
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Tag Team: "Michael Moore and myself against Savage and Rush."
From : "Brian Boyle" bboyle@[deletedbyrequest]
To : "Savage Stupidity" info@savagestupidity.com CC : [deleted] Subject : Just found the site Date : Fri, 11 Oct 2002 15:03:49 -0700 I can not express how happy I am to have found this site. The first time I listened to his show was in switching around the radio on my way home from work. I originally thought it was a bit kind of reminiscent of Firesign Theater. It didn't take me to long to figure out that Hughie Long was correct when he said that when fascism came to the US it would be called anti fascism. The other day Savage challenged Wolf Blitzer to a fist fight. If you are in touch with Wolf let him know that I will gladly take his place. I bet lots of people would. In fact I would like to form a tag team match. Michael Moore and myself against Savage and Rush. We are all about the same age so it might be close to even. We could even have Laura Ingerham prance around the ring in a thong between rounds holding the round numbers on big cards and muttering things that other right wingers have said. That by the way is how her show is produced. Keep up the good work. All the Best B. Boyle
Brian,
Thanks, awesome letter. I'd pay good money to see you and Michael Moore take on Savage and Rush. We could put it on pay-per-view and make a fortune. :)
Regards,
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"There is no right word in the English language to describe this loser."
From : "Arobind Velagapudi" arobind_chowdary@hotmail.com
To : info@savagestupidity.com Subject : Why is Mike such a Savage? Date : Tue, 15 Oct 2002 16:58:03 -0700
Hi Tom, As a kid, he must have been abused by his parents, disowned and bullied by his friends. You can hear him complain about how his mother was with him once in a while. As a youth, he must have been turned down by every girl he met. The sexual frustration in his voice is still very obvious. That also explains his hatred for women. I wonder how his wife and daughter can even stand him. There is no right word in the English language to describe this loser. He claims to be a great scentist, but all he's ever done is get a PhD in "vegetable science" from a university that dished out dubious degrees in the 60s and 70s. I really enjoy listening to this asshole. Makes me really worry about the country where a guy with an IQ less than my shoe size can manage to have such a loyal following.
Keep up the good work.
Arobind,
Thanks for the good word. Dunno what drives Savage, but he's clearly a pretty disturbed individual... and yeah, I do worry a bit about what the popularity of his show means for our society... but on the other hand, it is kind of hard to imagine his avid followers actually mustering the collective brain power to really change anything. I mean, given the general quality of their rhetoric, you gotta wonder how some of them manage to avoid putting their pants on backward in the morning.
Regards,
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I know what you mean... you never know what Michael's going to rant about next... dropping nuclear bombs on Iraq, denying women the vote, comparing Hispanics to rabbits... it is like watching a train wreck. Horrifying, but strangely compelling listening.
Regards,
Thomas Leavitt